This is what real hate speech looks like – part 1

Hey, it’s day 4 of the new year and I’m not banned on Facebook yet! Wowsers… here’s the thing… I’m normally banned for “hate speech” or “harassment and bullying”, when I respond to hate speech and/or harassment. Because responding to hate triggers the algorithms that detect hate, apparently.

So instead of responding there, from now on I’m going to call out typical examples of real hate speech that’s allowed on the platform whenever I see it. Hence the “part 1”. All posts like this one will be tagged hate speech.

As always, real hate speech is subtle enough that it doesn’t trigger algorithms. In this case, we have a Christian claiming that LGBTQ people are paedophiles. Specifically, it is targeting transgender people.

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It’s often a Christian being hateful, but not always. It is almost always someone on the political right. Also look at the reactions… This is from a group that’s turned into an echo chamber for bigots. I reported it to Facebook, but I am willing to bet it the post will not be removed. They never remove real hate speech.

And by the way, if you agree with the meme, you’re trash. I hope you choke on a chicken wing or something.

Some hate speech from religious people. Please help me in reporting it.

Check this out:

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So this past weekend, it came to light that someone who had posed as an atheist and befriended several of us in the most popular atheist group in South Africa, is actually not an atheist. She was in the group for months, knew about secular meetups, and duped all of us. Then she started this vile Freedom From Atheism group.

Several of us atheists were added there and I don’t know the full details of how that happened. I know only that I was added in disgust by a friend. I trolled the group for a short while over the weekend and then stopped.

The point is though, you don’t get to claim the moral high ground while calling for the execution of people who don’t believe the same as you. No seriously, a comment on another post claimed that atheists “can’t be good”. That fossilized chestnut, the implicit argument from morality.

Here’s the thing… Atheism is a response to belief. Not only does it make no claims, but it is not imposed on anyone. Secularism is a response to religion being imposed on everybody. The entire group, the concept itself pushed by it, is an example of a Tu Quoque fallacy, accusing atheists of imposing their “beliefs” on everyone, like a little child with nothing better to proffer than, “But you also do that!”. It’s pathetic, and vile.

There’s more of course. Some really crazy posts there – the usual stuff… accusing atheism about being “creation from nothing”, refutations of straw man arguments of science, and so on. But what really gets me is that we are not the ones who use beliefs to persecute anyone. You don’t see atheists claiming you can pray the gay away, or that black people are subhumans created to serve white people, or that traditional marriage is right because of hatred for same sex marriage. You see atheists criticizing the subject of the believers’ beliefs. That’s quite different to attacking people simply because they don’t believe what you do. If you can’t see the difference, you’re probably not terribly bright.

Obviously I reported that post I shared as hate speech, for what it’s worth. Some of my friends hijacked the comments there, but in the context of the OP and the original comments, it isn’t “just a question”. It is clearly hate speech and I hope that others may join me in reporting it as such.


Update

This has to be one of the most ironic Facebook comment exchanges I have ever seen, between a friend and a believer on a post of mine on that group…

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Yup yup… Mr Dunning Kruger… the twerp thinks he knows everything!