The voices in your head are not real

Recently, someone named Ryan commented this

 

(Not sure if the soundcloud embedded link is working with the editor I use. If it does not, use this link.)

I knew I wasn’t completely crazy because of this audio track. I felt what I could not hear. It’s specifically in contradiction with your article. It’s not for children.

That was in response to what is unfortunately the most popular post on this blog, one that I wrote a while ago about the way meth voices start with pareidolia.

I don’t know if Ryan and Spectre Inspector, who posted the clip to soundcloud, are one and the same, but the latter seems pretty far gone. (Edit: It is the same person.) His comments are mostly incoherent ramblings and he seems obsessed with some girl who looks “identical” to a girl from his delusions, and at one point he describes someone he heard singing – “I could not find the source, as best I could tell it came from the closet.”

Rather than writing it all over again… my reply to Ryan was this:

I don’t know what you think you heard, but thank you for making my point. This is exactly the kind of white noise, similar to loud wind and rain, that lends to you hearing voices when you’re on meth. Finding meaning in the meaningless when it is noise is like seeing rabbits (or jesus or whatever) in clouds.

It works similarly to the type of radio scanners and white noise generators used in so called ghost boxes (or spirit boxes). They (the deluded who believe in that) also have videos, and unless they add subtitles and you “hear” the same as other people thanks to the power of suggestion, no two people will ever hear the same voices.

So tell me, do you hear the same “voices” every time you listen to it?
I suspect not – rather the white noise creates a foundation, an audio “platform” on which you build your hallucinatory soundscape.

Thanks again. This is a perfect example of how meth voices start with pareidolia. But beware, because if you use meth long enough, you won’t need it any more. Eventually you’ll hear voices all the time.

I thought my argument was quite clear. Anyway, the Merriam-Webster definition for pareidolia is the following:

Definition of pareidolia. :the tendency to perceive a specific, often meaningful image in a random or ambiguous visual pattern. The scientific explanation for some people is pareidolia, or the human ability to see shapes or make pictures out of randomness. Think of the Rorschach inkblot test.

It’s worth adding that pareidolia can be auditory as well as visual. (Mentioned in this RationalWiki article.)

My original post described how the voices started for me, when I was high on meth and paranoid, after I had already been using a substantial amount daily for a couple of years. It started with auditory pareidolia, in that when there was a lot of ambient noise, such as rain, wind, a loud train that I was travelling on, and similar sounds, I’d hear faint sounds that appeared to be voices in the background. This progressed for me and after a few months, the voices became clear. Eventually I’d hear them all the time, without any noise required to stimulate my brain into “hearing” those patterns and finding meaning in the meaningless.

That was the entire point of the post! … that the voices start that way. I didn’t know that people out there actually sit around listening to white noise and intentionally search for meaning in the meaningless. I didn’t! And that is exactly what EVP is… People deluding themselves into “hearing” voices in white noise. It isn’t clear whether those people are simply extremist believers, psychotic, or under the influence of drugs like meth, but it is clear that whatever they think they hear is not real.

It saddens me that so many people have commented on that post, to say that the voices are real, and written details of the various delusions they have built up around the voices they “hear”. How come all your delusions are not exactly the same, lunatics? Huh huh huh???

For fuck’s sake people, if you hear voices that nobody else can hear, it is not logical to assume that you are special somehow and that there is meaning in those voices. Instead, logic tells you that something is going wrong in your brain, something causing you to hear voices that aren’t really there.

When that happened to me, it became frighteningly obvious that methamphetamine was doing serious harm to my brain. It became important to make a plan to stop using meth. And fortunately for me, the voices stopped as soon as I was clean for about two days. (I didn’t get sobriety right straight away, but every time I quit, that’s what happened.)

I’m not qualified to give advice to anyone who hears voices without using meth, but I can say that whatever you hear is not real. If you hear voices, it means that something is going wrong in your brain. Finding meaning in those voices is a path to psychosis, assuming you’re not psychotic already. The appropriate thing to do is to get help. An inappropriate thing to do is to go to the blog of someone who tries very hard to explain how dangerous those hallucinations are and how they start, and claiming that the voices are real. They are not. I’m always tempted to delete such comments, but maybe they do serve a purpose – they demonstrate how dangerous drugs like meth can be, as they damage your brain, and that damage might be permanent if you don’t do the sensible thing and try to get help when you realize that you’re hearing voices in your head. I can’t fucking believe I even have to explain this. It’s really quite simple: If you are hearing voices in your head, you have a problem.

I don’t know what else to say really… Is there any way I can get through to people like Ryan? Convince him that he needs help? If you reach the point where you are so convinced that the voices you hear are real, that you place a device in the closet to record them, and upload the tracks of nothing but static and background noise to the internet, maybe you’re lost… lost somewhere in your own head; lost in your delusions. Maybe there isn’t always a way back, not for all of us. And that’s sad. Despite my dark humour (using words like “lunatics” and so on), Ryan is not so different to me. He’s not stupid. He just followed the path his brain took him, his brain that has evolved like all of ours to recognize patterns and sometimes get it wrong. I knew several meth addicts who thought the voices were real, and some of them didn’t even know that they heard voices. Don’t be like Ryan. Get help before you lose your mind.

8 thoughts on “The voices in your head are not real

  1. Do you think you could email me? I would very much appreciate speaking to you on a more personal level. My boyfriend has this problem I’m terrified for him our blog has him finally realizing it’s the meth and not me but he’s convinced it’s me he hears me watching porn me vibrating me planing bugs that make him echo… I’m not just afraid for him I’m afraid
    For myself what he hears is very real …. for him….

    There’s no convincing him otherwise when it’s happening and I don’t understand it even a little I get angry and cry frustrated because why the fuck am I being accused of insane shit?! And that only makes him worse because if
    You call someone stupid or fat or crazy they become stupid fat and crazy because they feel stupid fat and crazy

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    1. Hi. I’m sorry to hear this… I have a Facebook friend who has a similar situation… her boyfriend was accusing her for years and she let me know that she eventually convinced him to read this, and it helped him. I can see if she has any advice for you that might help…

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  2. I’m new.and I’ve been reading your post. I love tweaking over knowledge and perspective. I’ve heard the voices, seen hallucinations…even shadow people but I believe that they are somewhat real. It’s not the drug that makes you lose it… it the fasting and no sleep. I already had abilities but they amplify after 3 or 4 days… I’m saying all this to say that some people may be experiencing things. Smoking, staying up and fasting while stimulating the pineal gland, can cause mystical things. If people can pray and speak to God sober, who is to say those voices aren’t on a frequency or possibly hearing thoughts. In my experience, I hear people’s worst thoughts about you. Their voice, their articulation, my reception but on another vibration. Just a thought

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    1. I’m sorry but no, I know the voices seem real, and I felt that way too. But they’re not. More likely the reason you believe they have bad thoughts about you is the result of the drug induced paranoia, you’re projecting the worst of your own thoughts on other people, hallucinating that they think this about you.

      All of us are mostly selfish, self-involved animals. We think about ourselves. Our innermost thoughts are directed at ourselves, and these people probably aren’t thinking of you at all, unless you make a spectacle of yourself responding to voices that aren’t there.

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    2. It gets worse, by the way. If you check the comments of my previous posts on this subject, there are people who believe that their governments are watching them and that they are the subjects of mind control experiments. The longer you use and indulge in these delusions, the worse they can get.

      I’m afraid there might be a point of no return, when the delusions turn into full all permanent psychosis. That’s why i write about this… to try helping others from getting to that point.

      You’re still ok, indulging in a bit of magical thinking… no worse than somebody with extreme religious beliefs. but you’re teetering on the edge – just a little further and you’re delusional to the point where the delusions take over and you’re no longer functional.

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